Menifee Lakes Reform

 

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09/05 Dear MLR welcome Back!  Have you noticed how sick our lake looks?  There is so much crap floating on the surface you could probably walk across it.

02/04
  Did you see how SAVARD and ROACH squirmed? It was pretty funny don't you think? And boy were they upset about what everyone else took as great news. Just goes to show you what those two are all about doesn't it? I am glad to see the Board do the right thing for a change. I will be very surprised if Moffitt , McFarlane, and Vejar don't try some funny business before it is all over. I guess we will see just as we have this far!
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"Stupid is as Stupid does!" - Forrest Gump 
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02/02  Say, I REALLY hope you post this comment. I was at the HOA meeting the other night; and it was great to see SAVARD and ROACH get their "come uppins". Wasn't it great the way the board shunned them as being "nobodies" and very unimportant. Of course we all know that Moffitt and Vejar kissed up to them all along, but when people are put on the spot, it is amazing how fast they dump the excess baggage, don't you think?

So now what? It looks as if we are going to have our meeting after all eh? Wonder who "clued the board in" since it is obvious our association attorney does not know anything about anything! Oh well, it is the outcome that counts. I am happy to see that the people who DID vote will have their collective will. That is the way it ought to be. LJ

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"We've got to get a new agent. We're getting screwed! " - Daffy Duck
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01/10
  Dear Menifee Lakes Reform: Maybe its because the holidays are over and the election is drawing near, but its good to see more letters from frustrated homeowners like myself being sent in. I wonder if, like me, they will be glad when this mess is all over. Next year, I should not have to hear from visitors as I did this Christmas, about all the mess that’s been going on here in Menifee Lakes. I have to admit that it got to be pretty embarrassing. The writer referring to Menifee Lakes as duckgate hit the nail on the head. I also heard the "Ducklady" is only a renter and that she is saving dead ducks in her freezer (why?)  She also has duck pens in her back yard where she cages our wild Menifee ducks.

So I decided to checked it out and it is confirmed that "YES" the "Ducklady" is a renter and "YES" there are wire cages in her back yard for the purpose of caging wild ducks.  So Menifee Lakes the once-beautiful community will go down in history with Watergate as "Duckgate" and we will be explaining it for years. Sincerely, A Frustrated Homeowner
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Who cares, it's a rental. Daffy Duck
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01/09  I too am a real homeowner (Not Some Crazy Duck Loving Renter.) I want to address the hypocrisy of Chrystal McFarlane, the "wanna- be re-elected" board member who was asked to resign from the Lake Committee by all but Ellen Schnoor (who was also asked to resign). She is the one who only makes about 5 board meetings a year, when she feels her power is at stake, or she is required to be there by Moffitt to support him. In the December Newsletter we were all subjected to the plagiarism of Chrystal McFarlane as she published the "Soldiers Christmas" in an un camouflaged effort to "soften her image" to the community. Of course she did not credit the author with the work, which Chrystal does frequently, but wanted everyone to think she was a poet, as well as a "decent" person.  Nice try Chrystal.

Well, she failed on both counts from my perspective. SHE is the one who edited the article by Mary Carnes regarding the Carnes' decision regarding their annual Christmas decorations. You noticed that the Carnes' (who have given 100 times more to this community than Chrystal could give in a lifetime) much needed explanation was limited to less than a 2 inch half column "paragraph" (BY CHRYSTAL) while Chrystal's "plagiarized poem" was given THREE QUARTERS OF AN ENTIRE PAGE! Why you ask? Because she could!! She is the CONTENT EDITOR. SHE TRUMPS EVERYONE as to what goes into the newsletter! No other Board member even knew what she was doing until the newsletter went to press. Another self serving example of how NOT to lead.

Now here is the interesting part. Chrystal is running for the Board. That means she is a candidate. Candidates are NOT allowed by LAW to use any medium of communication to in any way further their own candidacy without opening up that same medium of communication to ALL candidates at the same time. If the recall fails I will be the first to file for a nullification and re-start the process because of her SELF AUTHORIZED exclusive use of this medium without offering any equal opportunity to other candidates and homeowners. Chrystal using her POWER (much the same as George Moffitt used his POWER to procure the unauthorized label run (without following the procedures outlined in Davis-Stirling) to over power any other individual wanting to write for the newsletter. And she intentionally "bumped" fellow candidate Chris Carnes (actually his wife) in order to better her own appearances. Shame on you Chrystal!!!

Now for the capper. In January she did it again! Yep, she writes an article about a "pastors tablecloth"; a real sappy piece that is designed to evoke deep emotional "feel good" responses about "GOD". Of course this is from the same woman who told Jim Hyneman he was "full of shit" in a widely published email. She also told Don Harris in a similarly widely circulated email "You are full of shit Don". (Now that's what I call real Christian Love ! How about you?). But guess what, she plagiarizes again by failing to give us the author and work cited. And once again she takes the credit for this "beautiful, heartwarming tale" published by her in our opinion to once again 'soften her image'.... which definitely needs softening in my HUMBLE opinion. I would recommend plastic surgery, followed by gastric bypass surgery for a starter... but to each his own eh?

But wait, there is more, she once again as the CONTROLLING EDITOR of the newsletter takes three quarters of a full page without so much as running it by any other Board member. We thank goodness for Don Beckendorf brought this atrocity to the attention of the interim board president Vejar, who reluctantly said she would ensure that Chrystal McFarlane's attempt would not meet with success. I think she muttered "darn it" as she hung up the phone though.

We understand that Chrystal argued vehemently for her right to upstage all other Board Candidates by publishing her 'tear jerker' to convince people that she is not really a liar, or a defamer, or profane person. And once again no other candidates were offered 'equal time'.... another violation of Davis Stirling that she would be answering for if not for Vejar and Beckendorf. She should thank them as she apologizes to our community for her misdeed. But I doubt she will do either. Chrystal was seen out and about "electioneering" in one of the tracts recently, talking to people at their place of voting (their homes) and telling them how to vote. OOOPS..... another violation of the new law. And Chrystal knows better because she is a board member, for a couple of more weeks it seems. You've been a bad girl Chrystal!!! Now go to your room... and no drug taking for a full hour!  BJ
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Peace - a state of tranquillity or quiet: as freedom from civil disturbance, a state of security or order within a community provided for by law or custom. - Webster __________________________________________________________________________________

01/08 I am a homeowner that’s a regular-attendee of the MLMA homeowner meetings. There is no doubt that this is a board who has fallen prey to their own personal agendas and lost all interest in listening to their constituency. Seeing the home values decline rapidly, seeing the increase in crime, vandalism and hatred spreading rampantly with no steps taken by our board to protect the community; I agree, a RECALL is in order!

I am left with one question though: WHERE were the TWO men, who are now out to save the board, I repeat WHERE were the two men BEFORE the recall was initiated?? IF they were truly concerned about their community, WHY were they too not regular-attendees of the homeowner meetings?? Yet they pride themselves in living here for many years?? Pride in what?? Their community they never participated in? Have they ever served or volunteered on a committee of community interest? These are legitimate questions to ponder. Doesn’t add up.

Now they want us to think they care about their community? Could they just be out to protect a board who is in their pockets as the Sun City board is? SAVARD was an unknown name and face to the community. ROACH would have been an unknown name and face as well until he fought so hard against the Sun City RECALL. But does he live in Sun City and have the interest of the on-site homeowners there at best interest?? NO, according to newspaper articles, he lives in MENIFEE, but his livelihood is from his 15 rentals in SUN CITY!

Apparently that board has more interest in landlords than they do the actual on-site homeowners in the community! Thus, reason for his involvement. Yes, his purpose in protecting the ‘sitting bullys’ (board) over there obviously was to protect his rentals! I guess I’d be spending $$ to protect a board that’s protecting my rentals too !!

Now brings what many in the community are surmising, JUST WHAT are they working so feverishly to protect over here in Menifee? Could it be that Roach has our ‘sitting-bullys’ in his pockets too, protecting them as he did Sun City and called out his neighbor who just “loves a good fight” to join forces with him….not a good cause….just a good fight ???

All Lake Ridge knows that they are neighbors with Moffitt, the notorious CFO and are in cahoots with him. How do you think they get all their board info?? There’s an undercurrent to their involvement and anyone who is following this recall suspects it. As a homeowner who will be glad when this is all over, I just want the community back they way it was when it drew us here! Without a new board who cares about what’s happening, and takes initiative to do something about it, it will not be. Just because some of us homeowners are not visual and active on the recall, it doesn’t mean we are not watching and waiting ! We are no dummies! We have voted – now we’re waiting!! MJS, HOMEOWNER
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Peace is a state of mind for an individual and a state of existence for the society. A state of absolute fearlessness and independence of thought. - Pushkar India.
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01/07 Thank you for printing the full letter from the Carnes. Please settle a question I’m sure all readers are wondering: Why do you think that it was edited so much for the Menifee Lakes Newsletter? Was it Mr. Cadmus, the editor of that newsletter who felt he had to edit their letter? The Carnes letter was a letter to the community and deserved to be seen in entirety by the community! Seeing their beautiful Christmas decorations remain dark this year has caused many rumors questioning why. My visiting family always enjoyed the Carnes’ Christmas display. This year we had to tell them there were no lights because the Carnes had to go away. Not sure my little ones could understand. Please tell us who edited the Carnes letter and who is responsible for hurting this family? I respect your website and check it daily for updates. Thank you. - M.L.
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If you want to know the truth, follow the money - W. Mark Felt ( Watergate Deep Throat )
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01/06 Will the nasty duck situation never go away? Are we already down in history as Menifee DUCKGATE? That’s what we’re hearing. And am I to understand that the one who chose to intervene with the transferal of the ducks, which was a wildlife-sanctioned-normal-occurrence, was not a homeowner, but a renter who had adopted the ducks as her children? Please don’t tell me that we’re having to live under the label as the DUCKGATE COMMUNITY because of a wacky lady who symbiotically adopted the ducks as children and wasn’t even a homeowner ? Is the wacky lady a renter or a homeowner? Thank you Reform site, at least I know you’ll tell me the truth without polish! - SL, a REAL homeowner
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The official's heart must stand at attention before his mind. A. A. Bestuzhev-Marlinsk
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12/26  I must say, I have heard a lot of scuttle butt as of late. I do not live in Menifee Lakes, I just have good friends that live there and we visit them frequently. I was so, so disappointed that the man on the corner no longer puts up/out his Christmas lights. I waited all year just to see the miraculous display! I know others did too. Please forward this to him. You of course have your reasons for not displaying the lights, and it cannot be undone that your corner was dark this holiday season.

What I would like to tell you is that all of the little kids who came by to see your house and all of the parents who brought their kids, truly loved the experience, so whatever made up your mind to not display this year, must surely trouble you. I am sorry for that. I wish I could make you as happy as I felt when I left your house last Christmas after seeing all of your lights and being welcomed by you. I was there with my son and you kept telling us to go inside....well I was by myself and not really wanting to go in. We entered at your urging and it was AMAZING. I will always remember your house and hope to see it next year.

People are mean and cruel, and I am really sorry you felt you couldn't display this year. I know that when someone threatens you or your family, you get a sick feeling inside and that sometimes won't go away. Hopefully it will all be over with soon and the decent people will get the outcome they deserve. I look forward to introducing myself to you next December.
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What luck for rulers that men do not think. Adolf Hitler
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12/22 I was hoping you might know the answer to my question, as I get NO response from the Menifee Truth website. What happened to this year's Holiday Decorating Contest?? I could not believe the signs that were put into to the yards of the winning homes. What a slap in the face after these homeowners work so hard and that is what they get for their efforts??!!! What happened to the professional signs of the past years?? I do believe there are going to be some upset homeowners at the next MLMA meeting. It feels like Menifee Lakes is going into the toilet !! Thank you for your response. - Yes, we would like to ask our current board the same question!
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Calm and order can be just as dangerous to democracy as uneasiness and disorder. - Hildegard Hamm-Bruecher
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12/21 Well, from Brigata to Willows, as of 9:15 this morning we have so far 7 cars that have been shot up, with we think a bebe gun, shattered windows and body damage.... Again I can't stress enough and plead enough, that we need more security, a show of force, what I've been asking for all along... OUR HOMEOWNERS shouldn't have to put up with this....WE must try to stop these ACTIONS of VANDALISM before they turn into VIOLENCE! A show of force, take a stance, take back control of OUR community!
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There are always two reasons why a person does something, one that sounds good and the real one.
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12/19
  I find it very interesting how the so called "Truth Gang" had to ask Julie for a letter specifically stating that they are not to blame for her leaving.  However if George Moffitt came into my office everyday and verbally abused me to the point of tears I would quit as well!  Way to go Moffitt, our community has again just lost one of it's Greatest assets!  Kim
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Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest. Mark Twain
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12/18
  Once again the Board of Directors violates the law! Your 2007 budget should have been mailed 'no later than November 15th, by law. I received mine on December 12th... how about you? (VIOLATION OF LAW)

Remember CFO Moffitt was so 'caught up in trying to get rid of Harris, that he neglected HIS duties to ENSURE that all homeowners had copies of the annual audit by April 1st of 2006. He was 12 weeks late which is a VIOLATION of LAW. But that is only the beginning. IF you look closely at this years budget and compare it with last year's budget you will find the following to be true: 2006 Budget was INFLATED BY $100,000 over actual anticipated expenses. (VIOLATION OF LAW) 2007 Budget ELIMINATES SCHEDULED AND NEEDED RESERVE REPAIRS or postpones them in order to avoid raising dues, in a year in which there is a recall against the CFO. (VIOLATION OF LAW) Putting PERSONAL interests ahead of the financial and physical well being of the association. CFO prepared the budget "borrowing against the future reserve needs of the association against advice of reserve specialist" in order to keep from raising dues in a year when there is a recall against him, and McFarlane and Skari seek re-election. The reserve study shows that we will all pay dearly FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS for Mr. Moffitts self serving plan. Reserves will go up 120% next year, then at least 40% the next, and then 300 percent of what they were supposed to be for the next 30 YEARS!

Thanks George. You know that you probably won't be around to have to pay them, so you saddle us with them. Clearly not in the best interest of our community. By first INFLATING, then DEFLATING the budget needs of the community, CFO MOFFITT clearly shows that he is not qualified to be a CFO of this or any corporation. The Davis-Stirling act CLEARLY states what should and should not be done in regards to budget preparation and assessment collections. Our CFO either has not read, does not understand or just plain IGNORES the law. He has apparently violated the law so many times in regards to our financial matters, that I understand there is a suit in the works to have him removed by a Superior Court Judge! He not only needs to be recalled, he needs to be taking Ginko Baloba !!! I don't believe he is firing on all cylinders!!! IMHO
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The Boston Tea Party was a protest by the American colonists against Great Britain in which they destroyed many crates of tea bricks on ships in Boston Harbor. The incident, which took place on Thursday, December 16, 1773, has been seen as helping to spark the American Revolution.
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12/16
- Do we not think it strange and wonder how the most recent MLMA Newsletter cites the growing crime in our community, yet holds increased security for protection captive until we pay the ransom by increased homeowner dues!! UNTIL the current board starts using common sense and evaluates their spending habits, such as: Who in their right mind would waste funds, (reportedly $30,000) for daytime wages to have an elderly woman ride the association-owned-golfcart around the lake asking for identifications, picking up bits of trash, and electioneering for social gratification VS. taking those funds and providing some real security during evening and night hours when most the malicious activity is taking place!! Daytime lake monitoring, not to be considered security, (riding the cart asking and checking identifications and picking up bits of trash) COULD and SHOULD be done on a voluntary basis. I am sure there are many homeowners who would fulfill this volunteer position and consider it as community service and social interaction with neighbors. Thus, this wasted $$ could be applied where it should be - REAL security for protecting the community. Speak up folks and submit your responses to the current Board thru Emmons by January 15th ! Increased dues should come ONLY after they start using wisely the dues we are already supplying them with!! Note: Coincidence that they want responses until Jan 15th...day before elections ?? They really don't give us much credit do they??
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Democracy without morality is impossible. Jack Kemp
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12/15
- Hey guys, I know you didn't say Pauline was making $30,000, but that we are paying $30,000. We are paying ASI $30,000 for her contract to work with them/us. How sickening is that. It hurt me to have to write it down. The resident who wrote in on how sick this situation is, was right on the money. Good point, trash lady or security?????
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Democracy is based upon the conviction that there are extraordinary possibilities in ordinary people. - Harry Emerson Fosdick
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12/14 - I find it very interesting that the Carnes’ letter to the community had to be ‘shortened for space considerations’; then ‘edited’ further by Ms. Vejar to delete a sentence for obvious personal reasons. HER obvious reasons of course. Really speaks volumes about a person who can’t lay aside the personal grudges and let the holidays be celebrated as they should be! This is a letter from the CARNES and the community needs to see it; NOT the edited, watered-down version of someone else. The Carnes’ Christmas of goodwill celebrations have become a tradition within the community. It’s a sad day when spirits are broken and tarnished by the very ones they have worked side-by-side with for years! Yet…. the supposed ‘Space considerations and Ms. Vejar’s editing’ allowed MUCH SPACE for a much-too-long article from McFarlane (Vejar’s personal assistant). When will the dictatorship of MLMA end?? If we could buy this board for what its ACTUALLY WORTH and sell it for what it THINKS ITS WORTH; we’d all be rich. That is, until the one who bought them returned them as ‘defective’ with heart malfunctions. DJ, homeowner
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"It's more important to know where you're going than to see how fast you can get there"... unknown
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12/13 - Took at look the "Truth" and was totally sickened to my stomach. Understand this Roach character was involved in the Sun City "No Recall Gang". Spoke with a few Sun City residents and was told that this man kept his hands clean somewhat, but had others doing his dirty work. Have to wonder if this is what is going on, so much hatred from the "Truth site". I'm a resident looking for the facts not slanderous entertainment. Took a look at the letter on their site from Halliday. I understand that she is a Native Indian and always signs her name with an Indian identification word at the end. Noticed there was so such word with her signature on the letters on their site. Did notice the letter claiming ignorance did have her little word at the bottom. Could someone be writing fake letters and signing her name?? Wouldn't put it passed Roach and Savard.

It's a shame what these two men are doing to our community. I really hadn't seen or heard of all the misdeeds to our community until these two men came on site and then all Hell broke loose. So glad I'm not Don Harris, feel sorry for his family. This site, "Truth" shows no evidence in mending anything, just threats, or so I took it. Hoping this issue will finally be settled in January however, I feel that it will continue on if you win for I can't see the other side not contesting. I guess then we'll see their TRUE colors. One resident, Tired of the Bashing.
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"A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep." Saul Bellow
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12/12 - Looks like the Truth site, AKA Menifee Lies, is begging for people to write in. Have run out of lies themselves huh. I know that there are two other website dealing with the Recall and I know that you can't control what gets out (miss information). But this law suit stuff, is it fact or fiction?? The other two sites have talked a lot in the past about suing each other and others, but I hadn't heard until today about the Reform Group suing anyone. Again, is this true?

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We have never filed a suit or plan on filing a law suit against anyone at this point in time. I believe the article you are referring to hints that, with all of the violations and slander being put out, that there could be the potential for law suits, so everyone needs to mind their Ps & Qs. Our goal is strictly not to get caught up in all of this silliness, but to be successful on the RECALL!! Anything else is diversion and we don't have time for that.
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"The right to be respected is won by respecting others." Vassily Sukhomlinsky
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12/11 - Far too long the ‘good ole boys club’ has been allowed to hijack the homeowners with their misuse and abuse by elevating themselves with their ignorance of ethics and responsibilities. In the meantime, as they sit on their pompous thrones in their illegal closed covert meetings, our home values are declining rapidly, crime is increasing, homeowners are being abused and treated with lack of respect; because, as ‘they’ like to say “you’re just a homeowner”. This group, under the guise of ‘board’ has only self-gratifying power-seeking-motives and makes decisions solely in accordance with their personal grudges as if to say ‘don’t step on our toes’. HOMEOWNERS – STAND UP ! YOUR VOICE DESERVES TO BE HEARD and never will be with the current board !!
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12/10 - We wrote a letter to be included in the newsletter and it was shortened by John Cadmus for space considerations. While we were disappointed, we understood and went along with the condensation. Then, at the 11th hour and 59th minute, Sue Vejar had the last sentence deleted from the letter, which changed the entire aspect of the letter. Now, it will seem to all 1853 homes in Menifee, that we are anti-social, when in fact that is far from the truth. Would you publish our original letter, along with the history so that at least some people, (and a majority of our friends, we hope), will know the truth? Thanks… Christopher and Mary Carnes

2006 ANNUAL MENIFEE LAKES HOLIDAY DECORATING CONTEST
Mary Carnes
November 2006

In the middle of all the turmoil our neighborhood is experiencing right now, it’s time to think about the annual Menifee Lakes Holiday decorating contest.

Last year the baton was passed to me and I took over the job of organizing the event. With the help of many volunteers it was another fun and successful contest.

This year, however, our neighborhood is different. We have been verbally and physically attacked by our own neighbors; by some we had never met before and by others who we thought were friends. Whether you are one that is attacking, have been attacked, or trying to stay out of it as much as possible, we all are involved because we all are a part of Menifee Lakes.

Because of the vandalism and personal attacks on many of us in recent months, I can not encourage anyone to set up outdoor holiday decorations for fear they will be destroyed.

For this reason, and this reason alone, it is with great sadness that I will not be involved in the contest this year. If you are interested in continuing the tradition and being on the judging committee this year please let the Emmons Company know.

Instead of spending time trying to figure out what the ulterior motive is to our actions or non-actions, instead of pointing fingers complaining how some of our neighbors are not in compliance with our rules, maybe we could spend time spreading the spirit of the holidays by volunteering to help the people in our community that need and want help.

I applaud Mira Lago for organizing a track clean-up where they worked all weekend helping their neighbors. It was a big success. What harm would it cause if we all did that?

Some of you will probably take what I wrote or what my family does and twist it into something it’s not. It seems to be a popular pastime in Menifee Lakes.

Whether or not we hang a few lights or put up a few decorations, the Carnes house will not be open to the public this season. With the on-going personal attacks to our family and physical attacks to our property, we can not risk the possibility of additional harm to our family, guests or property.

Mary Carnes Menifee Lakes Homeowner
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Even a Fool is thought to be wise when he keeps his mouth shut! - King Solomon
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12/08 - Ok folks here we go; waste, waste, waste and we are paying for it! Here is the picture: We pay $30,000 a year for a lake monitor, Pauline Petrie. She works for ASI, but drives our Menifee Lakes golf cart around the lake, and we, the Association pay her salary per our CFO. Check it out for yourself. In the business part of the last Association meeting, the Board granted usage of our golf cart to ASI for Pauline. (For $30,000 get off your butt and walk ....Maybe she'd be too tired to gossip.) Are you sick to your stomach yet!! Our wonderful Lake Monitor picks up trash, asks for badges, spreads rumors, campaigns against the recall and FOR Moffit, McFarlane, Vejar, and Skari; and socializes with her buddies!!! And we pay for this?! There is no supervisor any where around, ever! And what happens when someone refuses to show her their badge?? Maybe a report is made and then again maybe not. Really, what can she do, NOTHING!! It all adds up to a waste. At least at one time there was back up...Don Harris if she needed help with reenforcement, as well as someone to keep her in-check when she decided to socialize at our expense. Now I hear that we have lost our evening lake security guard due to costs, but have decided to keep our lake monitor. Does something smell bad to you? Security guard or lake monitor ?? It's what we call a bonus.... friends taking care of friends at our expense.
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To feed men and not to love them is to treat them as if they were barnyard cattle. To love them and not respect them is to treat them as if they were household pets. - Mencius
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12/07
 - LASTNIGHT around 11:30 I heard three gun shot blasts. I went down Bridge Water to see if in fact that what I heard. Well not only did I hear three, there were five shots into a car parked on the Street of Bridge Water, about 13 minutes later there were several undercover Sheriff's. They blocked off the street and collected four shot gun shells! Two unmarked vehicles flew down Bridge Water towards Menifee Road. They thought they had the suspects, but did not! They told me they had been here in our community, undercover because of all the crime we are having. One Deputy said he had assigned out here, because of what's been going on here. Those shot gun blast could have very easily went into the front window of the home where the car was parked. I am having a Willows tract meeting. This will be just one of the issues I will be discussing, SECURITY here in MENIFEE LAKES. IT IS VERY CLEAR TO ME THAT WE ARE IN DESPERATE NEED OF NEW SECURITY AND MORE OF THEM. I believe if we don't beef up SECURITY NOW (for awhile), to let these criminals KNOW we are taking CONTROL, we will end up like Perris. WE must take a STANCE IMMEDIATELY! With SECURITY beefed up and made very visual, we are making a statement! This is something I will make sure YOU DON'T IGNORE! DO I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION NOW!!!!!!!!!!! OR DO WE HAVE TO WAIT TILL SOMEONE DOES GET SHOT
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Democracy is the art of running the circus from the monkey cage. H.L. Mencken
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12/06 - Dear Home Owners, In case you are wondering what has happened with the Recall and the Election, we didn't meet a quorum, meaning not enough people voted. Each tract must meet a quorum. If for example the Willow tract didn't get enough people to vote, the people in that tract who did vote, their vote doesn't count! But, if you did vote don't worry, you don't have to vote again because the Inspector of Elections, still has your ballot. Therefore your vote will be counted if and when we meet quorum.

PLEASE WE MUST VOTE! We now have until Jan. 16th! You should be getting a letter soon from the Inspector of Elections telling you what to do! You don't have to wait for that letter. I urge you to PLEASE call Emmons 672-4951 and ask for Julie. Julie should be able to answer any questions you may have! If you haven't voted yet and you can't find your ballot packet, you can get that by calling Emmons!

On Nov. 21st, I attended the Budget meeting. In the open session part of the meeting, I brought up the fact the we are in desperate need of a new Security Company since the fact that one Security Officer assigned to 1800-plus homes just doesn't ensure the protection we need. I was told by the Board that we don't need more security and that when I have a problem, I need to call the Sheriff! I then voiced that tires on several cars had been slashed in my tract, The Willows. The Board's response to that was that we "should park our cars in the garage". I reminded them that many homeowners have more than two drivers in the household. Mr. Moffitt responded that he has seen plenty of garages with so much junk in them that you couldn't even get one car in there and that people need to clean out there garages. This is the kind of flippant attitude that one gets from our current Board. This is just ONE of the many reason's for the RECALL!

On Nov. 22 about 12:40 a.m. I went out my front door because for about an hour prior, I kept hearing cars going up down the street. I opened my front door and just feet from my door, is a guy peeing in my yard! Right by my front door, not down along the side of my house, but right there at my gate, which is a just few feet from my front door. By instinct, I yelled "get the blank, blank out of my yard!". There were about six or so teenagers on my sidewalk that were laughing, and said to their friend, "Come on Jesse, lets go" . They then proceeded down BridgeWater toward the Reflections tract, where their group increased to about 15. Cars were parked all over Bridge Water. By now, I am out in the street and hear a loud noise. I wasn't sure if they had run into someone's car or what the heck it was. They came running back toward me, jumped into their cars and sped away, almost hitting me! I grabbed my cell phone, jumped in my car, calling Security while driving down BridgeWater to see if I can see what took place. Several homeowners were outside on their cell phones calling the Sheriff's and trying to get Security. Now I'm still not clear on what happened, but apparently someone threw a brick either at a car or at someone's front window of their home. Someone was standing there crying. I saw that the other neighbors were taking care of the situation so I left to see if I could track down SECURITY and see if I could spot any of the cars that had just raced out of there. Of course I couldn't find any of the cars but I did run into Security. I asked him where in the hell have you been?? He said when he got the call he was on the other side of Newport. He said had been down BridgeWater, had talked with everyone that was down there and that the Sheriff had already been there and left. (I didn't think I was gone that long)! He did say that one of the homeowners, wasn't very happy with him and wanted to know where he had been. The Security Officer said "I'm only one person, I can't be everywhere, you really need more than just me!!!". This kind of stuff is always going on. Someone popped out the window in one of our cars about two months ago, that was parked in my driveway to steal it, but they couldn't... my battery was dead! SO....I ask our Board do they really believe their "NO we don't need more Security" !!!!!!!! Think again board of directors! PLEASE VOTE YES ON RECALL!!!! 
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If one lays with dogs, they wake with flees! - Snoppy
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"It's about time, this board has been out of control for years now. We need to take back our community from the wannabe politicians" - RML

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"I know of no safe repository of the ultimate power of society but the people. And if we think them not enlightened enough, the remedy is not to take power from them, but to inform them by education." - Thomas Jefferson

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"Recall?? What are you talking about?? Did you vote for this Board? If you did, then you need to stick with them until the next election. If you did NOT vote then you have NO right to complain" - Helen Wittman
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A politician will do anything to keep his job - even become a patriot. - William Randolph Hearst
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"Why is it that the Board would not and will not acknowledge knowing anything about the Duck removal? It is to my understanding that this is something that’s done when ever the ducks get over populated. (Because it starts to cause our lake to deteriorate due to, too much duck droppings, which contain high levels of water polluting nutrients and a lot of other factors. If interested look at
www.animalpest.com ) The Board approved the Duck removal. And have in the past. Who do you think pays for the removal, the Board. So for them not to acknowledge this, is just another way to keep the community divided. All the Board had to do after this firestorm of untruths and blatant lies ran though our community and still is, was to write something about it in our news letter that we just received. They were ask to and refused. Does that tell you anything? It benefits the Board to keep our community divided. I as a HOME OWNER am embarrassed and ashamed of our Boards actions." - Glenda Hughesn
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"Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their own government." - Thomas Jefferson
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"Thank you for the flyer you put on my door. I have only been a home owner for one year. In this brief time I have seen a decline in property apperance, maint. etc. also several of the houses on my street have decided to rent. The new neighbors have little pride in their home ( since it is not theirs ) they don't give a hoot. (NO PRIDE IN OWNERSHIP). It would be nice to hold the owners & the renters accountable. My area is going down the drain along with my property value. I moved here for a quiet safe place to live. Now that is not a realistic view. I feel like I moved down town L.A. with my new loud, messy, no pride in ownership, partying neighbors. Why can't we all just get along?? Because my neighborhood & neighbors are turning into less than desirable living arrangments. And what do they do with the $$$ the lagoon is a joke! I won't let my daughters go to the lake by themselfs. To dangerous. Where do they all come from?" - Reggie Talley
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"The ballot is stronger than the bullet." - Abraham Lincoln
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"Good for you! My husband and I are with you all the way. Are you selling the t-shirts? I'd really like to display my displeasure with this board. Thank you for all your great work and you can count on our votes." - Kymm Cummins
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"Restlessness and discontent are the first necessities of progress." - Thomas A. Edison
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"I am saddened to hear what has happened to our community. A renter being allowed to cause all this division in what was once The Town of A Lifetime. I support the recall of this Board! If for no other reason because this Board refused and instructed Emmons Co. not to address this duck removal issue in our Homeowners Newsletter. Mr. Aguilar, our current President, would rather use this as a political tool then set the record straight about what happened to our ducks. If you are interested to know the truth ask the Emmons Co. for the Lake Managers Reports that are given to the Board every month. In particular Oct. 05, Nov.05 and Jan. 06. You will then understand that this current Board knew this removal of ducks was going to take place. There is no denying it... its in black and white! Our homeowners deserve better than to have our Board of Directors use this unfortunate incident for political gain!" -
SKBs
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"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln
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"Ellen Hoffman - Schnoor or Ellen Schnoor, whatever it is you call yourself. SHAME ON YOU!!  Is this the only way you can think of to get elected? BY YOUR BLATANT LIES!! YOU KNOW what happened the night of the duck removal, YOU WERE THERE. ( If you've forgot, read the Urban Wildlife Specialist Report. It will refresh your memory.) And yet, you still insist on telling your lies. SHAME ON YOU!! Preying on ANIMAL LOVERS HEART STRINGS. YOU WERE THERE!! You saw WHY some of those ducks died. Because of a woman's (AKA THE DUCK LADY) IGNORANT INTERFERENCE. And yet, you and this woman ( A NON HOME OWNER) are out daily HARASSING people with BLATANT LIES and DEAD DUCK PICTURES!!

The people walking the lake, they are the people that are having their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF LIFE, LIBERTY AND HAPPINESS VIOLATED!! They can't take a walk around THEIR LAKE without being harassed. A right that they PAY for. Maybe they ought to file restraining orders against YOU and AKA the duck lady!! That seems to be the theme with you and your friends. What is it, you don't like some ones personality, maybe because they are a little more aggressive or you can't control them, so we tell some lies about them and slap a restraining order on them. WOW, PRETTY SCARY IF YOU ASK ME!! ( ask yourselves, is that someone we want as a board member, power hungry)

You've had a seat on the Board, what is now, TWO different times? ( And TWO of those times, you've stepped down!) So YOU KNOW that the duck removal is something that HAS BEEN DONE in the past, and WHY it HAS TO BE DONE !! And yet YOU want people to BELIEVE that the ducks were slaughter.

YOU say an individual's contract was terminated for the benefit of the community. You mean for YOU and FOUR of the SELF SERVING BOARD MEMBERS. YOU have a PERSONALITY CONFLICT with a certain individual in our community, and you’re the one that’s called out RACIST and DEMEANING SLURS, with NO REGARD to his WIFE and his LITTLE GIRL. (who does that) YOU are the one with a VICIOUS, COLD and ANGRY HEART. It's PEOPLE LIKE YOU and the FOUR SELF SERVING BOARD MEMBERS that DEGRADE the COMMUNITY and LOWER PROPERTY VALUES. AND YOU WANT TO BE ELECTED, WHY???????

HOME OWNERS and I stress HOME OWNERS PLEASE ATTEND THE HOA MEETING OCT 17th. YOU HAVE GOT TO SEE THIS BOARD IN ACTION!!!!! VOTE YES FOR RECALL GET OUR TOWN OF A LIFETIME BACK!!!!!" -
Glenda
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"Truth often suffers more by the heat of its defenders than the arguments of its opposers." - William Penn
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"It is a fact that Marissa Skari, George Moffitt, and Susan Vejar tried to bribe Don Harris $10,000 if he would leave quietly. It was not authorized by the Board and it did happen. There is undisputed evidence for this.

Also George Moffitt is caught being quoted in an Executive Board Session stating, “I don’t give a shit about the Lake,” and his solution to the Beach Club is to “blow the f---ing thing up.” This, too, is irrefutable and the proof exists.

It is also a matter of public record the Moffitt and Crystal McFarland lost in their law suit against the Association in 2003 and over $9,000 in legal fees were sucked up by the Association. Those two never – NEVER – repaid one legal expense due to a backroom deal with former President Joe Morse in an unannounced Executive Session. This is fact as are the numerous Board meetings that were illegal by Davis-Sterling like their rendezvous a couple of weeks ago at Bogie’s – one of Moffitt’s and Ellen Schnoor’s favorite hangouts together.

Don’t forget the campaign by Crystal McFarland and Moffitt to make sure that there would not be security fencing around the Lake despite a two-thirds majority vote favoring it. This Board is also very cozy with Ellen Schnoor, who spends a lot of personal alone time with Moffitt. How sweet is that? Truth be told – this Board is corrupt and those supporting them are either sadly naïve or unable to tell the difference between good people and really bad people." -
 LCH
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"A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular." - Adlai Ewing Stevenson
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"This is totally unacceptable!  I overheard our lake security guard Pauline Petrie telling people on the lake while she was on duty that Don Harris killed the ducks and that he had the ducks killed! People Please Read the Urban Wildlife Specialist Report! According to the facts stated on the report, Suzie Allen a local Renter caused this because of her insane, inappropriate behavior that ended in the drowning of over 30 of the Menifee Ducks! Don Harris wasn't even around or near the lake at the time that it happened!

Property values in Menifee Lakes are already falling fast and we don't need people like Pauline and Suzie to make matters worse.  I'm a homeowner that is voting "YES" on the Menifee Recall and I hope that the first thing they do is fire Pauline Petrie for lying and spreading rumors in our community and file charges against Suzie Allen for slaughtering Menifee's wildlife!"
- ED
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"People always have been and they always will be stupid victims of deceit and self-deception in politics." - V. I. Lenin
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"I attended the MLMA Homeowners meeting last night and was appauled to see the board in action. I have heard many arguments for and against the recall. Having not attended a meeting before and being new to this community, I had not made a decision until after seeing the board in action. I cannot begin to describe how disappointed I am to know that these people are representing me, the homeowner!

My husband and I moved to Menifee Lakes to raise our family and it is shameful that racial slurs and physical attacks are taking place in our neighborhoods. Neighbors are a precious resource in our world today and it is disheartening that some are treating them so badly, regardless of the issues at hand. The mere fact that so many board members did not attend the meeting is amazing. Two of them barely even spoke. Mrs. Vejar was unbelieveably argumentative and antagonistic. No wonder nothing has been accomplished this year! I live near these "problem houses" that have been posted and it is disheartening to look at them on a daliy basis when we take so much pride in our home.

I do not know Mr. Harris nor have I ever spoken to him, but his work speaks for him. Since we have been here the lake has always looked beautiful. I find it disgusting that Mrs. Vejar's reason for terminating his contract was "to see what else was out there." This goes against common sense! If it's not broken, don't fix it! This is a great example of the boards self serving agenda. What nerve! I do realize this recall is not about the ducks or Mr. Harris, but these issues are indicative of their intent and character.

This board MUST be recalled! I would like to thank the recall commitee for bringing this out in the open for all see. I am sorry to hear of the ignorance that you are experiencing, but know that you are doing the right thing. The board's behavior towards you and all homeowners in general is SHAMEFUL!!! Thanks again."
- KB
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"The people is always expressive of the truth. The life of a people cannot be a lie." - Alexander Herzen
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"My vote is "YES"  "YES"  "YES" on recall." - Mike Campbell / Willows Tract  To read his complete letter -
CLICK HERE
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"Elections belong to the people. It is their decision. If they decide to turn their back on the fire and burn their behinds, then they will just have to sit on their blisters." - Abraham Lincoln
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"I don't know who the geniuses are behind the opposition but they're not the sharpest tool in the shed if you know what I mean.  They have no clue what the logistics of a recall even entail so they try to confuse people without any logical consequence.

(Quote from the opposition) "We're not sure if the recall means we lose the 3 members that are not up for re-election or if we lose the entire Board including the 4 we are electing now. Either way, if the recall is approved, we will have to SPEND the MONEY to hold ANOTHER election. We would vote NO for that reason alone . . . "

For this reason alone I'm voting "YES" on the recall.  I'd rather see our community spend a couple of thousand dollars getting honest, respectful and trustworthy people in our community on our board than to keep the current group of dishonest, self seeking slime bags who have literally thrown away hundreds of thousands of our dollars away!"  - Chris
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“The greater danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we hit it.” - Michelangelo
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"I do believe that unfortunately “it is too low and we hit it” is clearly demonstrated by these ( the opposition's ) communications. Our Board is lacking the leadership that this community needs to be successful. We should be conducting the MLMA Association as a business. At this point, we are not an entity to be taken seriously. Our community needs to take the high road, which does not include slander, etc.

I personally could not consider voting for any one candidate that supports bed-sheet signs, juvenile campaign materials, and statements on their materials that have even a hint of racism or are verifiable lies. If this is how any candidate conducts business before they are elected or re-elected, common sense tells you to expect much more once such candidates have a power seat. It isn’t rocket science. To that end, we as homeowners would have to be cleaning up after their messes, etc.

I was repulsed when I read this caption under the tasteful dead duck photo “Our ducks didn’t drown and they didn’t have to die. They were killed by the pest control company with an unapproved contract”. Truth? I can only assume that people that use these tactics presume that their audience is ignorant enough to not check the facts. That in itself is pretty insulting. No matter the person or their opinions it is very easy to verify facts in this day and age and this world technology."
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Terri
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"Great is truth, but still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth." - Aldous Huxley
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"Dear Menifee Lakes Reform, I don't understand why everyone keeps pointing the finger at Don Harris and say that he is the reason behind the recall.  From what I understand, for the past 10 years Mr. Harris has done nothing but manage our lake and beach club to near perfection.  However the name callers and mud slingers have done nothing but try to undermine and cause division within our community.  They just don't get it, Mr. Harris isn't even listed as one of your reform candidates.  I'm giving Mr. Harris all 4 of my board member votes and I suggest that anyone with the courage to stand up for what is right do the same thing!" - JR

Added 10/25 - "I read on the
www.MenifeeLakes.net web site that Don Harris doesn't even want his old job back as lake manager! Good for Him!" - JR
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"One man with courage makes a majority" - Andrew Jackson
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"I saw the Menifee report on the channel seven news last night and since our children live in your town I was shocked to hear what was going on in their community.  I think that the people fighting against your reform and disrupting your community should be arrested and tried for hate crimes and that your board members should resign immediately as well.  Menifee is such a nice, quite town and a safe place to raise a family but it only takes a few bad apples to spoil the who barrel.  I really hope that the people of menifee lakes take back their wonderful community from the few that are trying to wreck it." - Mary in Glendale
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - John F. Kennedy
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"I saw one of your MenifeeLakesReform.com signs on Newport Road yesterday (It has since been torn down) and I decided to take a look.  OMG I had no idea what was taking place in our wonderful community!  I am forsure voting for the recall as well as for the reform candidates.  Thanks for making me aware and for the very imformitive website." - K in Miralago 
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"So easily do weak men put in high positions turn villains." - Dmitry Pisarev
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Look, I have been reading ALL the web sites, all the newspaper articles and all of the forums.  Here is what I have found. 
CLICK HERE
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"As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand." - Josh Billings
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"Obviously "WITTMAN"......you do not remember the recall of our past govenor of California. The majority voted him in......then decided he wasn't doing the job he promised he would do.....so a recall was established, and a new election was held and now you have "The Govenator" as your govenor.

As a citizen of this country and this community.......I have the right to ask for and receive a recall if I feel the person or person elected to my menifee lakes board of directors are not fulfilling the job requirements or not looking after the best benefits for me and my neighbors. there are four (4) current members on this board that are either too ignorant or too darn stubborn to resign, thus SAVING THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS (of our monthly dues paid to the association) and having a normal re-election.................and becuz "THEY"...not the homeowners are causing this uproar......a RECALL is the only solution to a very dangerous situation that is happening in our peaceful little community.

We have people who are without any moral backbone and are cowards who write racial slurs and spread rumors without any factual evidence or paper trail to convince us that what they write or say is truthful and honest.......and all this could have been resolved if these four (4) board members resigned their positions.....and then all other board members would follow suit and resign accordingly to end this ridiculous firestorm of insults and verbal assaults. Don't tell me "WITTMAN" that I can't fight for what is right and just and fair in this US of A......oh yeah......and just for the record......I'd vote for a recall of our President Bush as well, and do a jig if he were removed as well from his lack of moral duty to the citizens of America!!!! Signed......One of the FEW Democrats (with a brain) who live in Menifee."

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"It is wrong to ask who will rule. The ability to vote a bad government out of office is enough. That is democracy!" - Karl Popper
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"My family and I have lived in Menifee for ten years now and we have had a few run in's with Mr. Harris the former lake manager.  But, like him or not his performance over the past ten years speaks for it's self.  I don't care if you hate the man, he has done a fine job by me taking care of our lake.  Mr. Harris has only been gone a few weeks and already the lake looks and smells like crap.  Give it six months and we will all be begging Mr. Harris to come back and get things back the way they are suppose to be.

Some of you board members need to move to Sun City & leave Menifee Lakes the hell alone!"
- RS
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"Who's more foolish: the fool, or the fool who follows him?" - Obi Wan Kenobi
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" Over the weekend I received your flyer and I have to admit I didn't have a clue what was going on in our community until I took a look at your website.  Thanks for informing me as to what has been happening in Menifee Lakes.  We love it here and we would hate to see it destroyed by a few narrow minded dishonest people." - Rhonda  
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"Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope...build(ing) a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance." - Robert F. Kennedy
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"Currently Menifeetruth(?) states that the Harris lawsuit will negatively affect property values for Menifee Lakes homeowners because Realtors will have to disclose to prospective buyers that a lawsuit exists against the current Board of Directors. A disclosure to that effect is necessary but it will not discourage potential buyers from purchasing homes in Menifee Lakes.

We Realtors have been disclosing lawsuits that were served against builders of the community for some 17 years now. Has that discouraged buyers? We don't think so as some homes here in Menifee Lakes have been sold over and over to new buyers over the years. And property values are at an all-time high despite the disclosures of lawsuits.

What WILL affect potential buyers for this town is the HATE CRIMES AND PHYSICAL VIOLENCE AGAINST RESIDENTS AND PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT APPEARS TO BE CONDONED BY A MAJORITY OF THE BOARD in an ill-advised effort to prevent the RECALL of this Board.

We Realtors are aware of at least one incident already in which a prospective buyer said 'No Thanks' to living in a town where people stoop to harass homeowners with hate crime graffiti and physical attacks simply because the residents have a different opinion of how this town should be governed and where an ego- obsessed Board wants to run rampant over the association members. Realtors for Reform."
- JB Realtor
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"It is hard to believe that a man is telling the truth when you know that you would lie if you were in his place." - H.L. Mencken
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"In my opinion anyone who votes against this recall is either uninformed, misinformed or stupid."  - Mike
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"The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously." - Hubert H. Humphrey
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"I'm trying desperately to educate the uneducated and uninterested neighbors in my area by pleading with them to take time to read both websites and to make a stand one way or another because if we don't have enough votes collected to make a quorum, we're faced with having to "get what we deserve" by not voting for or against the recall of our Menifee Lakes board of directors.......and we're getting down to the wire to get the votes in!!!

Both sides of this debate must END THEIR PERSONAL ATTACKS and show some maturity by speaking only the factual / actual truth to this community instead of lashing out at one another with ugly comments and tasteless jokes...................

let me end this comment with just two words of advise to these yes / no recall fanatics."

** G R O W U P !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

An Active "Adult" Palmilla Resident
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"False rhetoric and false boastfulness spell moral ruin and lead unfailingly to political extinction." - V. I. Lenin
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. . . Mr. Moffitt has violated the position of an office of the Board of Directors and the trust of this association.  I request that the current Board of Directors exercise your authority as outlined in our CC&Rs Article 8, Sec 8.04, which allows the removal with or without cause , , , READ THIS
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"Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote." - George Jean Nathan
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"Hi boys and girls, Well, I finally did it. I voted today. I want to thank you for taking the time to correspond with me regarding various issues I have had. In all honesty, I sent some questions to the Harris site, and also the reform site. When all was said and done, I want to tell you each how I voted, and why.

First of all I voted FOR the recall. Why? Because I feel there is enough question about the moral integrity of the 'remaining three' board members to make it right. It is pretty obvious that George Moffitt has more on his agenda than just 'the budget". I personally found his actions regarding the lable run to be the thing that put me over the top on him.

Greg Aguilar makes less than one in four board meetings, per year on average. That is enough to put me over the top on him. And you have to admit that Susan Vejar runs a pretty 'iron handed' meeting. If as Harris and Reform state the board has been guilty of holding some twenty odd secret meetings, and violating other specific legal standards.... well .... I just figure it is always good to have a clean and fresh start. And usually where there is smoke there is fire.

If the community wants them back, they can vote them back on in the election that follows the recall, right? As to my votes for the Borad, I will keep them to myself. I would like to say this to you boys and girls. While you may have admirable purposes in doing what you are doing, those emails from Mr. Savard and "the boys and girls at Truth" to Harris and 'others' that are posted on his web site, are absolutely detestable. I am really shocked at the verbage, and the underlying tone. In spite of your cordial and polite way of communicating with me; those emails would be enough to put many women in the corner opposite you. I hope you will do something about that, because it really detracts from your overall presentation.

I would like to ask you to publish my email. I have done you the courtesy of listening to your responses, and communicating in a direct manner with you all. Please afford me the courtesy of posting my remarks in an unedited fashion. Thanks" - Marty
 

Feel Free to send your questions or comments to:

MenifeeLakesReform@mail.com

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